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 Doorman's response to us about getting banned

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|GS| Flagg



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PostSubject: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:04 am

This is the great Doorman's response on GS getting Banned on the DiG servers sent to Nesta by Doorman himself.

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"I'm going to assume you've spoken with Beanbag already and he's explained most of it, but I want to give you a brief summary of my thought process.

You start off as a regular in our servers. Instead of wanting to join the clan that owns the servers you play on, you decide best to start your own clan. But of course without actually paying for any servers (and I'm not talking about reserved slots - that's a joke - we have to pay over a grand a month for our servers) or doing any of the work. Then you have the balls to start recruiting member which you met on my servers. And don't give me that horseshit about not doing it within game, you still met them in our servers so you still actively stole potential recruits from us for your clan.

But I don't have anything against you personally. So here's the deal NeStA - you have two choices.

1. Break up GS and become normal players again without a clan or clan tags. All your guys (including yourself) will be unbanned and forgiven and this will all be forgotten.

2. Keep GS together as a clan and run your own shit (like real clans do). Go through the headache of paying for a server, then setting it up, updating and administrating it. Then day after day of watching your server stay empty, slowing people will start coming in, and within a couple months you should have a couple handfulls of regulars. It's called paying your dues, and I definitely had to do it, all (real) clans did. And your bans on our servers will remain, at least for some time.

You wanna play poker with the adults? Fine. But be prepared to put real money on the table and lose it. Don't want to deal with those consequences? Then go sit at the kiddies table and play Monopo"

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This is what he said and I hope everyone realizes what kind of people are running DiG
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:44 am

We should not get up in arms about the situation. They have their opinions and it isn't worth the effort to add anymore fodder to the drama. It's their server and they can run it however they want, regardless of how we feel about it.

We should just put the effort into our own server and try to enjoy the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:33 am

yeah ok i say we kick them and leave doormans an ass

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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:48 am

I agree with you Kepher. To be honest, i don't even want to support their servers if this is how they treat people who spend as much time on there as we do. Especially considering a bunch of you guys were donating. I'm a little torn though, and i expressed this to Nesta last night. What do we do about all the friends we made there? I hate to be the guy who goes around saying "Look what this jerk did!", but the alternative is losing all these people as friends and comrades. To them we will have just vanished one day. So do we keep our mouthes shut and just work on our server hoping these people find their way over? Or do we spread the word around about what happened and let these people decide what they want to do? I'm really not sure. The thought of either doesn't sit well with me.
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:23 pm

I do see the points Rowdy and Kepher make but, I believe in making sure people know about this. That is my main concern. People need to realize who they are giving their money too. And about the friends we have made there we can always invite them to play along in the GS server. To be honest I don't want to go back to their servers. I just want the DiG members and the people that play on their servers what kind of a person their clan leader is.
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:12 pm

To be honest I don't want to go back to their servers. I just want the DiG members and the people that play on their servers what kind of a person their clan leader is.

id dont understand that part

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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:40 pm

.:|GS|:. Naro wrote:
I just want the DiG members and the people that play on their servers what kind of a person their clan leader is.


You realize that's a huge (completely legit) reason why people get banned from servers. How would you feel if your server got populated, another clan came from your server then you found out they were getting people from your server. After they you realize they are starting there own server. What would be a safe assumption? They are taking people from "your" server to "their" server. Though it is obviously not what you guys were doing, but seeing it from that perspective I can't say his descision is completely unfair.

Yes, it is unfair. He should have posted that long before he took action. He also should have consulted the TF2 players. He is an extremely busy guy so he just took action.

I also feel Kepher is very right. What is done is done. If you get unbanned then good, if not who cares. You guys should be working on your server. Just remember to take note that the friends you are asking to come to the servers are most likely from the DiG servers. You can thank Doorman for them (your friends (hell even clan mates)).

Good luck with your server and message me if you need help populating it, I'll do my best.

Take it easy,
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:43 pm

Hey guys! I'm just hear to give an updat on DiG. Well some may know that Nesta put an officla appeal on the DiG forams. Whoson1st, Nide and myself posted on the forams. They have all been taken down by nonother Doorman himself I'm sure so me and nide posted it again. And I will keep doing it. I don't know why. Maybe I'm just bored, who knows. Well thats what's been happing. o and I just got banned from thier forams. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:37 pm

rowdyramirez wrote:
I agree with you Kepher. To be honest, i don't even want to support their servers if this is how they treat people who spend as much time on there as we do. Especially considering a bunch of you guys were donating. I'm a little torn though, and i expressed this to Nesta last night. What do we do about all the friends we made there? I hate to be the guy who goes around saying "Look what this jerk did!", but the alternative is losing all these people as friends and comrades. To them we will have just vanished one day. So do we keep our mouthes shut and just work on our server hoping these people find their way over? Or do we spread the word around about what happened and let these people decide what they want to do? I'm really not sure. The thought of either doesn't sit well with me.


Add them to your friend list.

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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:45 pm

Kepher wrote:
We should not get up in arms about the situation. They have their opinions and it isn't worth the effort to add anymore fodder to the drama. It's their server and they can run it however they want, regardless of how we feel about it.

We should just put the effort into our own server and try to enjoy the game.


You are very right. If we make our server better than DiGs why would we miss it? Who cares we can play on no hero's server to say fuck you even more to doorman.

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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:46 pm

if we had 5 servers 32 and full at all times i wouldent mind ( not to mention the ones you guys have on cod4)

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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:03 pm

Doorman wants you guys to quit the clan? What kind of solution is that? I just came from their forum and noticed that the Nesta thread is gone, along with any other thread that was posted. Why? Are they trying to make it look like nothing ever happened?

As far as I'm concerned, I will not be visiting a DIG server again, even if they lift the ban. They were pretty much the only server I was playing on until the ban. I still have several DIG members on my favorites, and I hope to see them on your server or some other server in the near future.

bahbahbah made some good points - and I hope to see him around in TF2.
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:40 am

CamelToe999 wrote:
Doorman wants you guys to quit the clan? What kind of solution is that? I just came from their forum and noticed that the Nesta thread is gone, along with any other thread that was posted. Why? Are they trying to make it look like nothing ever happened?

As far as I'm concerned, I will not be visiting a DIG server again, even if they lift the ban. They were pretty much the only server I was playing on until the ban. I still have several DIG members on my favorites, and I hope to see them on your server or some other server in the near future.

bahbahbah made some good points - and I hope to see him around in TF2.


I noticed that the posts were deleted also. It's unfortunate and I think maybe he just wants to get rid of any mention of us on his forums. Maybe he didn't like people voicing their opinions. Whatever the reason I have to agree with Camel. Even if the ban was lifted I wouldn't return to his servers again either. I also have to agree that I hope to see some of our old friends, both DiG and not, in game. Thanks for stopping by our server and forums Camel, you're still a friend of GS.

NeStA
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PostSubject: Re: Doorman's response to us about getting banned   Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:12 am

I think I'm pretty much done fighting this thing. I did post my response to doorman on the forums again I got banned. But I don't really care that much. If he wants to forget this thing ever happened so be it. Like I said it was more about letting ppl know what was going on. But if doorman wants to run a communist clan, and keep us quiet then so be it. At least we know the truth and his insulting responds will be up for all to see.
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